Does God Exist? – The Craig vs. Hitchens Debate

Tonight we are rebroadcasting the “Does God Exist” debate between William Lane Craig and Christopher Hitchens.

Here is the promo: “Witness one of the great debates of the new millennium. Devoted atheist, Christopher Hitchens, author of the bestselling God is Not Great, squares off with one of the most formidable debaters in the Christian world, Dr. William Lane Craig, on the topic: Does God Exist? Moderated by Hugh Hewitt and hosted by Craig Hazen at Biola University.”

What I would like to know is what you thought? Those who attended tonight’s debate or found this blog another way and watched the debate, what did you find compelling or not compelling? Where do you think the evidence points? (and more importantly why?)

Please feel free to leave your comments below and interact with each other. The only rule is to treat others with respect.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Here is a link for further input on this debate.


Resources to Explore the Question Further

Hypothetical Conversation on the Who Made God Question

In light of a recent comment on the previous blog, I thought this conversation would be helpful for everyone so I included it as a new post…

(HT – from www.whyfaith.com)

After my recent post re Peter Kreeft’s thoughts on “Who made God?” I’ve seen that same question come up in several places during my random web wanderings. As I was thinking about this question today in the shower (where all great philosophical thought occurs) I imagined a conversation like the following … hopefully this isn’t too contrived and doesn’t caricature the two imagined persons involved too much:

Christian: The cosmological argument is strong evidence that God exists. If the universe was made, it needs a maker; if it was created, it needs a creator. That creator is God.

Skeptic: Ah, but this merely raises the question “Who made God?” which Richard Dawkins himself asks in The God Delusion.* It just pushes the question back one step further.

Christian: This seems to me to be a category error; it confuses the uncreated creator with His created creation. God doesn’t need a maker because God was never made; He was and is eternally existing.

Skeptic: That’s special pleading at best, hypocritical at worst. Why is it okay for God to be “eternal, uncreated” but not the universe?

Christian: Because we have good reasons, both philosophical and scientific, that the universe is not eternal, whereas no such reasons exist to believe that God is so. God is not subject to the same limitations of the material world He created. The cosmological argument proposes not that everything requires a cause, but whatever begins to exist requires a cause; if God did not begin to exist (since there is no reason to believe He did, unlike the universe) He requires no cause.

Skeptic: Even if we agree that the universe is not eternal, why must its cause be God? Why not some other explanation?

Christian: Whatever created both time and space must transcend both time and space. Also, there are numerous other attributes which can be discerned about whatever created the universe that imply a personal entity (that is, it possesses volition among other things). So the creator of the universe is an entity which is beyond time and space yet still possesses certain attributes and is personal. This sounds to me a lot like God.

* In The God Delusion Dawkins is attempting to apply the question as a defeater to the design argument (p.109), not the cosmological argument (which Dawkins shockingly dismisses in less than a page). I’ve personally heard it applied more often to the cosmological argument, at least in the realm of Internet banter. (end of section from whyfaith.com)

Also, evolution and natural selection do not help the atheist / materialist here because they must act on something…they have nothing to say–no explanatory power or scope–about the origin of time, space, matter, and energy. The universe is not eternal…it had a beginning. So what is the best explanation of that beginning. Something popping into existence out of nothing??–the atheist position (and no, the hypothetical multi-verse doesn’t help here…it just backs the question up a step).

Moreover, as philosopher Paul Copan has put it, “the state prior to the big bang was literally nothing [i.e., not empty space and air]–which implies not even the potential for something–and nothing can begin to exist without a cause. To claim that something can come from literally nothing is metaphysical nonsense.”

One of the Earliest Christian Hymns About Jesus

Behold the Preeminence of Jesus Christ:

15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. 16For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent. 19For in him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

This hymn we find in Col 1:15-20 was sung by the first followers of Jesus; it predates the writing of the NT. What is clear from this and other passages is that Jesus was worshipped from the very beginning. The deity of Christ was not an invention or later accretion.

Adult Stem Cells the Answer? On Oprah? Yes….

There has been a lot of debate on the need for embryonic stem cells vs. adult stem cells. But the reality is, embryonic stem cells are treating “zero” diseases while adult stem cells are treating around 90.

But don’t take my word for it….let the Oprah show confirm that for you (wow did I just say that???)

Watch this clip, it is 3:43

Adult stem cells provide real hope to those who struggle with Parkinson’s disease. Watch the clip to learn why.

(HT – STR Blog)